![]() Tech support was competent, but slow, with replies every next business day. The Linux support is "OK", and improved greatly when I upgraded to the latest Ubuntu and what I assume is a host of updated proprietary drivers.īut the system also got regularly stuck in a mode where it wouldn't wake up from sleep, for weeks, until one day it simply couldn't be woken up, even after having no power. The battery life, as other have mentioned, is poor. This isn't a bad laptop by any means, but it's not been a panacea either. I've had my framework for about six months, and it's been an incredibly mixed bag. ![]() The RK3399 is not quite Main Machine material. I'd like something with better performance than my Pinebook Pro if possible. The MNT Reform is a lot more interesting, although I don't know if any particularly performant SoMs are available for it yet. Guts aside, they're doing a good job, but the guts are pretty important, and in this case, boring. The Framework is sort of cool, but it's just another modern Intel machine at the same time. Hopefully Asahi support is pretty good by then. Likely just an M2 Max MacBook Pro when available. My take on all this is that x86 is on its way out anyway, so I'm trying to make my T440p last and will try to go with ARM or RISC-V for my next machine. I'd like to think the bar is higher than that considering some of what's out there. Some people defend modern ThinkPads saying they still beat the competition. I think it's fixed, but I still touch it as little as possible and use external peripherals. Eventually got a tech sent out and he swapped the motherboard. I used an external keyboard/mouse mostly, but it'd still happen occasionally. I have a P15s for work and my initial model would hard freeze when putting pressure in certain spots. But at the same time they've removed indicator lights, certain ports, I'm not even sure if there's a magnesium rollcage anymore. As you said the T42 or around there for pre-Lenovo, T400 for libreboot support, T420 for old keyboard, T430 for old charger/body design, T440p for last gen with socketed CPU and for coreboot support, T480 for last gen with a removable battery I think. The "last good ThinkPad" is different for many. They certainly have continued to take away nice features, stability, and build quality over the years. Instead of adapters you have modules - is this a win? It takes up internal space and may be partly why the battery life is bad. It’s not obvious to me why this is better than just having adapters. That’s even ignoring the continued distance apple keeps putting between themselves and everyone else with their custom hardware.Īlso the modular ports are essentially built in usb-c dongles. I’m tempted by the framework because I like what they’re trying to do, but if suspend is still an issue it’s imo not worth it (even ignoring the bad battery tradeoff). It means my default assumption has to remain that it probably won’t work (or at least I shouldn't expect that it will). The issue is suspend still doesn’t work reliably going on twenty years - even in the case where the laptop is explicitly a Linux laptop made for this purpose. I’ve had thinkpads that don’t work either. Nah you’re fine - I try to avoid saying things like “never actually work” because there’s always someone on HN who will point to one working example as if that absolves my point, but sometimes I forget. I have since bought another one for an employee and over the next few years I plan on deploying them to my whole team.īasically I should be a testimonial on their website. It's repairable so I don't worry about something physically breaking. ![]() It's cheap enough that I don't worry about it getting lost or stolen. It's just good solid generic hardware at a fair price. My configuration at the time was $1032 and I've been running Manjaro Linux on it continuously for the past year on it with zero problems. The Framework (gen11, DIY edition) was exactly what I was looking for. Couldn't find anything that checked all my boxes and the Dells were particularly crippled: 8GB of soldered on RAM? Only certified to work if you use their custom hacked Ubuntu image? No thanks. Looked at made-for-Linux laptops like System76 and the various Linux-certified Dells. They started going downhill after that, primarily in that I could no longer find a Thinkpad model that was at the intersection of upgrade-able and Linux compatibility.Īround 2021 I started looking for an alternative. affordable (around $1300 for my config) Ran Linux without much tinkering or major compromises The pinnacle was the T460s/T490s models from around 2016, because they: As a Linux laptop user, I used Thinkpads for years.
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